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I loved reading The day in loco parentis died (Nov, 2007), but have a few questions. Where are the experiences of the 50s? What about the doors left open for board members of political organizations to return, without question. How many bottles were snuck into dorms for Rosh Hoshanna (even by Christians!) How about all night card games? I have lots of memories, and felt totally free to come and go, within reason, and think my dorm was no different than the others.

  • Sally Greek Hitchcock
  • 1955
  • Palmer

I recall with great warmth my housemother, Mrs. Janet Tait. She managed Newberry when I lived there from September, 1961, until I had to move to Couzens in June, 1963, as did all nursing students at the end of their sophomore year. Mrs. Tait's door was always open. She smoothed many difficult moments with a fine pot of tea and shortbread from her native Scotland.

  • Marjorie Fleischman Korenblit
  • BSN
  • 1965
  • Nursing
  • Boca Raton

Thank you for covering the ROTC program in Student, citizen, soldier (Nov, 2007) and honoring those who will be serving and protecting our country someday.

  • Ron Bound

Thank you for giving some brief attention to those students who make the sacrifices necessary to complete their education while earning a military commission (Student, citizen, soldier, Nov 2007). They are truly the “stars” on the U of M campus. Their dedication deserves much more recognition in your publications.

  • Michael Malley

The picture of Hinsdale House in 1965 (The day in loco parentis died, Nov 2007) really brought back memories. I lived in Hinsdale House during my first two years at Michigan, beginning in Sept, 1963. I wonder if you have any pictures from that school year or the 1964-65 year. If so, is there a way to see those pictures? I certainly remember Mrs. Morris and a couple of the women in the photo in the article. A big concern was getting back into the dorm before curfew and what to do if one was a bit late, for very innocent reasons.

Thanks for the memories!

  • Freddi Greenberg
  • AB
  • 1967
  • LSA
  • Evanston

To whomever,

Do you think that this article, Student, Citizen, Soldier, will placate conservative Americans who love this great country ours, for what she stands for and her wonderful traditions? Do you think conservative Michigan graduates will be impressed by this one article?

Sorry, at least this one Michigan graduate is not impressed. Period.

  • Donald E. Zerial, JD
  • 1967

As a graduate of Michigan in 1959, I was delighted to see the beautiful photos of A Michigan autumn in your e-newsletter. They brought back memories of my first fall ever. Special thanks to the photographers (especially of photos 4, 5, and 6) and to you for thinking of this lovely feature.

  • Jean Seales
  • Los Angeles

Thank you Mr. Tobin for a thoroughly enjoyable and well written look at one aspect of women and men's liberation in the 1960's (The day in loco parentis died, Nov 2007). Having attended school during an era of mixed hallways, I can scarcely imagine what it must have been like to have such restrictions on my behavior.

  • Paul
  • BS
  • 2000
  • ME
  • Beirut

Answer to Chris Sederstrom's disappointing question, "[w]hy the focus on faith and the military? Disappointing": because our nation and our values are founded in religious faith and our way of life, including Chris' civil rights, are defended by the military. Come on people, educate yourselves.

  • Jeff Paetkau
  • Master of Architecture
  • 1993
  • CAUP
  • Sonoma

(Re: Nov 2007 issue.) Why the focus on faith and the military? Disappointing.

  • Chris Sederstrom

Thanks for this excellent newsletter. I look forward to receiving it on a regular basis. A great networking avenue.

  • Donald Kuiper

As the mother of an officer currently serving in Iraq and one who is consistently bombarded with nothing but negatives, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing this wonderful piece on the Army ROTC (Student, citizen, soldier, Nov 2007). I forwarded it to my son. I am sure he too will be most appreciative of this kind of positive support.

  • B J Bess

Having graduated before dorm rules were loosened (The day in loco parentis died, Nov 2007), I can only imagine how the profit margins for local florists plunged in the absence of "late-minute" rose sales.

  • Dave Law
  • B.S., M.S., Ph.D.
  • 1967, 1973, 1981
  • B.S., 1967
  • Northville

Dear Dr. Ball,

Thank you for your stewardship at U-M and your recognition of the primacy of math (Above the math wars, Nov 2007). Please recruit, emulate, and acknowledge methods and curricula that foreign-born (Indian, Russian, Singaporean) teachers can and are willing to provide. My foreign students have fabulous stories of their elementary algebra and physics classes!

  • eileen feldman
  • B.A.
  • 1966
  • Education
  • Burlington

Loved James Tobin's look back on the "arcan" dormitory rules of the past (The day in loco parentis died, Nov 2007). I spent two and a half years in East Quad and I couldn't imagine life there without a diverse community at all hours of the day or night, seven days a week.

  • Adam Fivenson
  • Communication Studies
  • 2007
  • LSA
  • New Delhi

I unwittingly played a huge part in getting 24-hour open-opens (The day in loco parentis died, Nov 2007). A freshman in Hinsdale House East Quad in the fall of 1967 (there were no women in Hinsdale House until at least 1968; I was a charter member of the Pilot Program.) About a month into the semester, we had acquired alcoholic beverages and were partying in my room. As fate would have it, my window opened on to a flat corridor roof of the quadrangle. The roof continued over to windows in Prescott House, a female house in Residential College. They heard our party and climbed onto the roof and into our window. The girls had arrived. Unfortunately (or fortunately as it turns our), the Resident Director busted us for having women in the room after hours (the alcohol was gone), and we were sent to the student judiciary for trial.

Knowing that they were looking for a case to rule on the validity of Regent-imposed visitation hours, we pleaded not guilty because the Regents who made the current visitation rules had no student representation at the time. The judiciary acquitted us on those grounds (but we did empty dorm trash cans for a month for disturbing the peace).

Time moves on. I was elected President of Pilot Program and we moved to Alice Lloyd in the fall of 1968. The Regents, having seen the student judiciary ruling, added a student representative and decided to look into opening up visitation at a meeting that fall. I was invited to testify before them. I told them that the Pilot program (composed of an equal number of men's and women's houses) were ready and mature enough to give it a try. It didn't hurt that we were old enough to be drafted and die in Viet Nam but were still treated like children by in loco parentis. They voted to let the dorms set their own policies! I saw it happen.

(A small aside. The Michigan Daily reported the decision and my testimony the next day. Because the invitation to the Regents meeting came one day before it was held, I had not had a chance to poll the hall reps of the Pilot Program [who met weekly] before I appeared. Now the Daily heard about this, called me for an interview and instead of reporting the story in detail as it happened, ran a scandal article about it. I had not told the regents that any vote had taken place - but the Daily smelled headlines! Thank you, student reporter and editors, you knew even then that sensationalism garnered more readers than complete facts. Rupert Murdoch would be proud of you.) The regular weekly reps meeting arrived and after some original objections that I should have consulted that body first, they understood that I had had a one-shot opportunity to speak for students and voted to support the elimination of visitation hours in Alice Lloyd. I had read the tea leaves correctly and thus capitalized on a singular opportunity for students to control their own lives! Did the Daily ever go back and print the true story? Of course not...and to this day when a reporter calls, the first words out of my mouth are "Don't quote me!"

There's another good story in this tale. The Pilot Program was the first co-ed invasion of "The Hill," a traditionally all women's dorm compound. When the jocks from South and West Quads came over for their traditional panty raid that fall (1968), they had quite an unusual surprise....

  • Andrew White
  • AB, MPH, PhD
  • 1971, 1975, 1980
  • LSA, SOPH, Rackham
  • Chevy Chase

Congratulations to News Service for A Life's Harmony, a splendid tribute to a great artist. And congratulations most of all to Marilyn Mason herself. She was already legendary when I was a student and she hasn't missed a beat since! Her art and her very association with us are a gift beyond measure.

  • Willaim M. Klykylo
  • A.B., A.M., M.D.
  • 1970, 1973, 1975
  • LSA, Rackham, Medicine
  • Cincinnati

I, too, lament the wholesale rejection of proper English (What's the point? Oct, 2007), which seems to be as much a victim of fashion or "cool" as much as anything, with our media (TV & radio announcers and advertisers) jumping on the bandwagon and reinforcing such things as the changing of the word "quote" into a noun and the wholesale loss of the whole category of adverbs. If those of us had the time and energy to help prevent this loss, we'd possibly follow up with the idea of a website, which would cite the guilty parties as contributors to the downfall of the language! But, alas, it will all probably go down the tubes!

  • Chris Bell
  • A.B., M.S.W.
  • 1973, 1994
  • L.S.& A, Social Work
  • Ann Arbor

I look forward to reading more about Prof. Danziger's work (What really affects poverty? Oct, 2007), but the article begs the question: at what point does kicking women off of welfare and into work actually change the material circumstances of the family? Placing poor women in a job that offers no hope of advancement, barely covers the basics, removes women from the home and prevents the possibility of continuing education is not good social policy. The welfare system from which I personally benefited as a young single mother allowed me to get a four-year degree while working and raising my daughter AND it provided adequate health care for both of us (Medicaid). "Welfare Reform" Clinton-style has simply ensured the availability of a large pool of desperate workers unable to improve their economic and social circumstances through education.

  • Valerie Mapstone Ackerman
  • Social Work
  • 1989
  • MSW, 1989
  • Schenectady

While Prof. Bailey is correct (and, as usual, interesting) about instances where the apostrophe is disappearing (What's the point? Oct, 2007), he ignores one instance where it is unfortunately proliferating: as a misuse in plurals. Part of me is suspicious that the New York Times, persistent in elegant constructions such as "the 1980's," has contributed to this, but I find the "apostrophe-ess" as a plural form so prevalent outside institutions such as the University of Michigan that I wonder if it will not be at least an accepted alternative for dictionaries within my 8-year-old son's lifetime.

  • Walter Bilderback
  • A.B.
  • 1983
  • RC
  • Philadelphia

Bully for Prof. Bailey! (What's the point? Oct, 2007)

Keep fighting for the apostrophe!!

  • Stanford H. Arden
  • M.S.,Eng.
  • 1947
  • Rackham
  • Decatur

With regard to children's health insurance (What really affects poverty? Oct, 2007), I want to clarify that there has been a Federal program for ten years. It allows variation state-to-state, but it IS a Federal program. The current debate over children's insurance is not about how to create a new federal program; it is about how to re-authorize and expand the program that exists.

  • Laura Shone
  • DrPH
  • 2003
  • SPH, HMP
  • Rochester

I am not an academician, but there is no doubt that poverty increased with the increase in government intervention (What really affects poverty? Oct, 2007).

While one should not always assume cause and effect, I submit that it is precisely that in the case of poverty. After nearly 50 years of the "War on Poverty" we are paying the price of well-intentioned but failing government programs to curb poverty. Our failure to access the results of programs continues to block our ability to find solutions. I would submit that the emphasis on providing things to the needy rather than tools to learn how to improve their lives is at the root of the failure. What is so hard to understand about that? It is just easier to give handouts than look for real causes and solutions.

  • J. Richard Jaconette
  • M.D.
  • 1959
  • LSA, U of M Med
  • Battle Creek

I enjoyed Richard W. Bailey's essay on the decline of the apostrophe (What's the point? Oct, 2007). But I have a quibble with Bailey's assertion that the "Wood's Hole Oceanographic Institute" (sic) has lost its punctuation mark. According to published histories, the Massachusetts coastal community presently known as "Woods Hole" first appeared as "Woods Holl" (no apostrophe) in historical records and old books, the unusual "Holl" supposedly derived from an old Norse word for "hill." Later English settlers in coastal Massachusetts used the term "hole" to refer to a passage between islands, and the waters between the present-day community and nearby Nonamesset Island became known as "Woods' Hole" (apostrophe included, after the "s"). In 1877 the Postmaster General ordered the restoration of the name "Wood's Holl" (apostrophe added, but shifted to the left). That usage prevailed until 1896 when the U.S. Post Office adopted the simpler "Woods Hole" (no apostrophe), which has been in force ever since.

The Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) was founded in 1930, by which time "Woods Hole" was well established as the name of its host community. Thus WHOI had no apostrophe to lose. The larger point is that the apostrophe appears to have been an unstable feature of the place name, and something of an interloper all along.

  • Brad Karkkainen
  • B.A.
  • 1974
  • LSA
  • Saint Paul

If the apostrophe becomes obsolete (What's the point? Oct, 2007), how will we tell the difference between "its" and "it's"? While the grammatical issue of the apostrophe plagues many individuals when it comes to writing, and the abolishment of it would give English teachers one less thing to mark us down on in our papers, I think this is another example of laziness with regards to the written English word. I mean, let's not even get into text messaging and instant messaging. Does it really take that much more time to type out "you" as opposed to "u" or "to" instead of "2"?

Question: Does the disappearance of the apostrophe indicate something deeper with regards to possessiveness? Is this a move toward less emphasis on individualism, and more collectivism?

Question: Am I reading too much into this?

Oh what going to Michigan does to one's (or ones) thinking!-)

  • Erika
  • B.A.
  • 2007
  • LSA
  • Chicago

St. John is actually the largest city in New Brunswick, not Nova Scotia, as the author states in What's the Point? (Oct, 2007). The largest city in Nova Scotia is the capital, Halifax.

  • Chris Rasmussen
  • Ph.D.
  • 2005
  • Rackham
  • Minneapolis

Nice article on the Clements Library (A piece of history, Sep, 2007), but how about kudos for the Interim Director and his long standing U of M connection? I can't help but inquire and suggest.

  • candice cain dunnigan
  • M.A.
  • 1979
  • thater/dance/ music
  • grass lake

I am pleased to hear the great news about the book by Bo Schembechler (Bo's Lasting Lessons, Sep, 2007). It was not just the football players on campus who benefited from his constant smile and leadership and words of wisdom.

  • Warfield Moore III

Very nice and timely article (When do we know that we know? Sep, 2007). The general public is not much aware of cosmological debates, but the politicizing of the Global Warming debate has surely put that on the public radar. McKay's explanation of arriving at scientific certainty is on the mark. I remember the raucous debating at meetings of the American Geophysical Union in the early 1960s regarding plate tectonics. The process of acceptance was just as McKay describes, though the experiments of the next few years were of the data-gathering sort. However, it is useful to remember that the scientific process also serves to discredit claims. Remember the debates over polywater and cold fusion?

  • Frederick Morse
  • MS in Chemistry, Ph.D.
  • 1960, 1962
  • Rackham
  • Sierra Vista

If I thought I had even an ounce of a chance I would apply to be Director for the Clements Library (A Piece of History, Sep 2007) and love that library till I died. While I work as an engineer, I am known as a bookaholic, my nickname is Ms. Bookworm and my writing company is Bookworm Productions. I collect mostly social history studies such as Steam Laundries and Conditions of Working People in Massachusetts 1870-1900 (recent buys) and I love to have my books out where I can appreciate them. I even had my stairwell stacked with the books I wanted to read until two recent back surgeries forced me into a condo. I have some media work to my credit - over 75 shows I wrote and produced on Public Access TV - all on interesting history from my regional area (Mid Atlantic) and I am working on a book looking at a New England resort that grew and flourished from 1840-1920. I have one other book (see Amazon) with Dr. David Weishampel called The Dinosaur Papers. Probably not quite enough to get the job - but will I ever envy the one who is selected!!

  • Nadine White
  • BMus, BSME, MSME
  • 1970, 1976, 1981
  • Music at Mich, Eng, Eng elsewhere
  • Oakton

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